Large Vintage Native American / African Pottery ??? Start Price USD 4,285.00 Current Price USD 4,285.00 Time Left - Bid Count 0 Buy It Now Price USD 12,875.00 Reserve Price - Start Time Sunday, November 30, 2008 End Time Sunday, December 07, 2008 Location Albuquerque, New Mexico See more about 'Large Vintage Native American / African Pottery ???' Description Large Vintage Native American / African Pottery ??? You are bidding on a pot that was found in shed that has been closed up for the last 25+ years,  "I have taped some of the pieces in place for the photos'  We have tried to find out some history on it, But no one seams to know much about it, not even the people that should. Here is what we found out form the experts of some of the best Museums in the USA This is truly a rare find   From: Nietfeld, Patricia   Cc: Altstatt, Lynne Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 2:02 PM Subject: RE: old pottery, I think   Hello    Our pottery expert has now looked at your pot.  He believes that it is not from North America.  He suspects that the pot is from Africa (it is wheel thrown as I suggested earlier) and that then paintings of rock art figures were done on the pot by someone else.  However, the designs around the rim of the pot were probably done of the original potter.  Most of the rock art figures appear to be from famous rock art panels.  The man with the shield appears on a rock art panel in the Galisteo Basin area of New Mexico (SE of Santa Fe).  The man with the square body is from a famous rock art panel in Utah.   I hope this helps.   Regards, Pat Nietfeld   Patricia L. Nietfeld, Ph.D. Supervisory Collections Manager National Museum of the American Indian Cultural Resources Center 4220 Silver Hill Road Suitland, MD 20746 To: Altstatt, LynneSubject: old pottery, I think   I called on 09/25/08 @ 6:00 pm your time, and was so lucky to talk to Susan Frampton, she took time with me, and then asked me to contact you, and that you were the one I should send this to. Please Tell Susan Thanks for all her help.   I was asked by Susan Frampton to contact you about a piece of pottery I found in a old shed we have in the back yard, I live in Albuquerque New Mexico, and I have asked about this pot around here, and no one can tell anything about it, so I thought I would ask some one that just maybe can help me find out it, I don't know how long it's been in the shed, but the shed has been there since the early 1950's, it has been damaged, and some one has tried to glue it, I have taped some of the pieces in place for the photos, I have tried to take some measurements, I hope they help.   15" high 49" around the middle Approx 16"  across 6 5/8" opening at the top 1 3/4 to 2" for the handles Our pottery expert has now looked at your pot.  He believes that it is not from North America.  He suspects that the pot is from Africa (it is wheel thrown as I suggested earlier) and that then paintings of rock art figures were done on the pot by someone else.  However, the designs around the rim of the pot were probably done of the original potter.  Most of the rock art figures appear to be from famous rock art panels.  The man with the shield appears on a rock art panel in the Galisteo Basin area of New Mexico (SE of Santa Fe).  The man with the square body is from a famous rock art panel in Utah.   The pot might be older than the decoration.  I would guess it must be 20th century Lynne Altstatt, the NM AI librarian sent your photos on to me as I used to work at the Museum of New Mexico and am familiar with Southwestern pottery.  However, your pot has us somewhat mystified, so I have taken liberty of passing your email on to a real expert in Southwestern pottery (much better than me) to see if he can say anything about it.  I'll pass on his response, but it may take a while to get an answer.  At first look the pot looks like it was made on a pottery wheel (unlike the vast majority of Southwestern Pueblo pottery which is hand modeled).  The designs are a little odd too.  So, basically it has us here stumped. Hello, and sorry I didn't answer your e-mail sooner. After looking at the photos, and after thinking about your pot, I have a pretty good guess as to what it is. I'm not 100% sure, especially without looking at the pot in person, so please take the following as a grain of salt.The pot was made in the fine arts ceramic tradition, on a wheel, and shows a familiarity with both Old World and New World artistic traditions. In other words, a modern artist who draw his/her inspiration from older cultures (and specifically from Native American art). It is definitely not prehistoric Native American, and definitely not traditional Native American from historic or modern times either. It was almost certainly made after 1900,  Whoever did it was talented -- it's a well made piece.Museums are not allowed to place values on items, but I can make some general comments along those lines. For a non-native, fine arts piece to be valuable it would have to be attributable to a known artist. If the pot is not signed, attributing it may be impossible and in any case the artist may not be a famous one. (restoration is possible, but expensive).  that's my best take on it.Dave PhillipsCurator of ArcheologyMaxwell Museum, UNM WE ONLY EXCEPT PAYPAL AS PAYMENT FOR LISTED ITEMS IF YOU DO NOT USE PAYPAL, DO NOT BID !! NOTE: ALL ITEMS ARE SOLD AS IS, SO PLEASE BE SURE YOU WANT THE  ITEM, YOU JUST MAYBE THE WINNING BIDDER  WE LIST ITEMS FOR THE PEOPLE WANTING TO SELL THEM, AND TRUST THEM TO GIVE US TRUE AND ACCURATE INFO ON THE ITEM. SO PLEASE SEE TERMS of SALE   Certain images/photos incorporated into this template are the royalty free property of JupiterImages. Place a Bid!